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*New episodes release every other Thursday beginning March 12, 2026!*
Welcome to Code C.L.I.O.! The podcast for everyone and anyone who cares about the psychosocial, cognitive, and emotional development of children. Certified Child Life Specialists (CCLS) want to care for you and your families. But, we can’t do that if we don’t get paid a living wage or if we’re constantly disregarded, disparaged, and disrespected by our colleagues.
Join us for our inaugural season as we seek to ask and answer what is a Certified Child Life Specialist, does it matter that the field could disappear altogether, and is there anything we can do about it?
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Thursday Apr 09, 2026
Thursday Apr 09, 2026
➡️ April 09.
🕔 5:00pm EDT
🗣️ Episode 3: The War on Wages w/guest Kirsten Black, MS, CCLS, Registered HPS
It matters that the people who care for your child’s psychological and emotional safety can’t afford their basic living expenses.
It matters that hospitals see Certified Child Life Specialists as opportunities to trim the budget.
It matters that we refuse to allow this topic to become too taboo to discuss.
Thank you to everyone who shared their heart, and their story, as we preview the true cost when Certified Child Life Specialists aren’t paid a living wage.
Host: Annie J, MS, CCLS, CAHP
Guest: Kirsten Black, MS, CCLS, Registered HPS
Editing: SH Creative
Follow the Pod: @code_clio
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